Post by bloodysam on Oct 1, 2006 16:11:36 GMT -5
hi folks,
i found this site by chance and appreciate all your work here.
since there are only two western done, here is one of the best:
THE WILD BUNCH
USA 1968 / restored director’s cut 1997
app. 144min (NTSC) / 138min (PAL)
by SAM PECKINPAH
starring William Holden (Pike Bishop), Ernest Borgnine (Dutch Engstrom), Warren Oates (Lyle Gorch), Ben Johnson (Tector Gorch), Robert Ryan (Deke Thornton), Edmund O’Brien (Freddie Sykes), Jaime Sanchez (Angel), Emilio Fernandez (Mapache), Strother Martin (Coffer), L.Q. Jones (T.C.), . . .
body count:
SAN RAFAEL 22
TRAIN ROBBERY 4
FIGHT AT BRIDGE 3
BATTLE OF AGUA VERDE 112
misc. 4
total 145
en detail:
SAN RAFAEL
0:10:08 bank clerk (shot by bounty hunters)
0:10:16 bounty hunter
0:10:20 bounty hunter (shot by Tector)
0:10:26 bounty hunter
0:10:50 civilian
0:10:57 civilian
0:11:06 civilian
0:11:15 bounty hunter
0:11:37 bunch member in trenchcoat (crashing into shop window)
0:11:40 bunch member in uniform (shot by Thornton)
0:11:53 civilian (shot by Mr. Harrigan)
0:12:19 tuba player (shot by Thornton)
0:12:22 bounty hunter (shot by Pike Bishop)
0:12:32 bunch member in trenchcoat (shot by Thornton)
0:12:42 woman trampled by horse
0:12:52 – 0:13:09 bunch member (first shot by Thornton and Coffer, final shot by T.C.)
0:13:28 man with gun (shot by Lyle)
0:16:45 three men (shot by Crazy Lee)
0:16:48 Crazy Lee (shot by Mr. Harrigan)
0:18:10 wounded bunch member (shot by Pike)
AGUA VERDE
0:54:39 Angel kills Teresa
FLASHBACK
1:08:30 Pikes girlfriend killed by her husband
TRAIN ROBBERY
1:15:47 two machinists kicked/thrown from engine by Pike (not counted)
1:15:48 2 soldiers (shot by Lyle)
1:15:58 2 solders (shot by Angel)
BRIDGE
1:22:21 1 bounty hunter (killed by Pike)
1:23:20 1 soldier (shot by T.C.)
1:23:40 1 bounty hunter (shot by Tector)
NOTE: there are 9 bounty hunters (incl. Thornton) on the train and then in pursuit of the bunch. 2 of them are clearly seen killed by the bunch. then on the bridge there are only five left. so 2 are – well – missing in action.
PANCHO VILLA ATTACKS GENERAL MAPACHE
1:29:25 1 soldier
HERRERA TRIES TO GET THE GUNS
1:40:48 1 soldier shot by his own men
AGUA VERDE – THE BATTLE OF BLOODY PORCH
2:06:30 Angel killed by Mapache
2:06:35 Mapache killed by Pike & Dutch
2:07:12 Kommandant Mohr shot by Pike
2:07:15 Herrera shot by Pike
2:07:15 – 2:11:00
33 killed by Pike
23 killed by Dutch
20 killed by Tector
24 killed by Lyle
4 killed accidentally by german officer
Pike, Dutch, Tector & Lyle killed by Mapaches
soldiers
character breakdown:
Pike Bishop 38
Lyle Gorch 27
Dutch Engstrom 23
Tector Gorch 22
added :
Deke Thornton 3
Angel 3
NOTE: it is VERY difficult to count the shot people in this final battle. the scenes are set up very well. there is a lot of movement in the background, people running, stumbling, seeking cover etc.
there are a lot of „cut aways“ only indicating that the people are severely wounded or killed.
i think the total number of 145 is quite reliable.
i will recount the movie sometime next week to make it sure.
if someone else wants to do it - go ahead
i found this site by chance and appreciate all your work here.
since there are only two western done, here is one of the best:
THE WILD BUNCH
USA 1968 / restored director’s cut 1997
app. 144min (NTSC) / 138min (PAL)
by SAM PECKINPAH
starring William Holden (Pike Bishop), Ernest Borgnine (Dutch Engstrom), Warren Oates (Lyle Gorch), Ben Johnson (Tector Gorch), Robert Ryan (Deke Thornton), Edmund O’Brien (Freddie Sykes), Jaime Sanchez (Angel), Emilio Fernandez (Mapache), Strother Martin (Coffer), L.Q. Jones (T.C.), . . .
body count:
SAN RAFAEL 22
TRAIN ROBBERY 4
FIGHT AT BRIDGE 3
BATTLE OF AGUA VERDE 112
misc. 4
total 145
en detail:
SAN RAFAEL
0:10:08 bank clerk (shot by bounty hunters)
0:10:16 bounty hunter
0:10:20 bounty hunter (shot by Tector)
0:10:26 bounty hunter
0:10:50 civilian
0:10:57 civilian
0:11:06 civilian
0:11:15 bounty hunter
0:11:37 bunch member in trenchcoat (crashing into shop window)
0:11:40 bunch member in uniform (shot by Thornton)
0:11:53 civilian (shot by Mr. Harrigan)
0:12:19 tuba player (shot by Thornton)
0:12:22 bounty hunter (shot by Pike Bishop)
0:12:32 bunch member in trenchcoat (shot by Thornton)
0:12:42 woman trampled by horse
0:12:52 – 0:13:09 bunch member (first shot by Thornton and Coffer, final shot by T.C.)
0:13:28 man with gun (shot by Lyle)
0:16:45 three men (shot by Crazy Lee)
0:16:48 Crazy Lee (shot by Mr. Harrigan)
0:18:10 wounded bunch member (shot by Pike)
AGUA VERDE
0:54:39 Angel kills Teresa
FLASHBACK
1:08:30 Pikes girlfriend killed by her husband
TRAIN ROBBERY
1:15:47 two machinists kicked/thrown from engine by Pike (not counted)
1:15:48 2 soldiers (shot by Lyle)
1:15:58 2 solders (shot by Angel)
BRIDGE
1:22:21 1 bounty hunter (killed by Pike)
1:23:20 1 soldier (shot by T.C.)
1:23:40 1 bounty hunter (shot by Tector)
NOTE: there are 9 bounty hunters (incl. Thornton) on the train and then in pursuit of the bunch. 2 of them are clearly seen killed by the bunch. then on the bridge there are only five left. so 2 are – well – missing in action.
PANCHO VILLA ATTACKS GENERAL MAPACHE
1:29:25 1 soldier
HERRERA TRIES TO GET THE GUNS
1:40:48 1 soldier shot by his own men
AGUA VERDE – THE BATTLE OF BLOODY PORCH
2:06:30 Angel killed by Mapache
2:06:35 Mapache killed by Pike & Dutch
2:07:12 Kommandant Mohr shot by Pike
2:07:15 Herrera shot by Pike
2:07:15 – 2:11:00
33 killed by Pike
23 killed by Dutch
20 killed by Tector
24 killed by Lyle
4 killed accidentally by german officer
Pike, Dutch, Tector & Lyle killed by Mapaches
soldiers
character breakdown:
Pike Bishop 38
Lyle Gorch 27
Dutch Engstrom 23
Tector Gorch 22
added :
Deke Thornton 3
Angel 3
NOTE: it is VERY difficult to count the shot people in this final battle. the scenes are set up very well. there is a lot of movement in the background, people running, stumbling, seeking cover etc.
there are a lot of „cut aways“ only indicating that the people are severely wounded or killed.
i think the total number of 145 is quite reliable.
i will recount the movie sometime next week to make it sure.
if someone else wants to do it - go ahead