Ghost Rider (Unrated finalized)

[JenGe]

Possible kills: 31 (21 if Penance Stare/jail are not kills**)
Misc: 1 lizard

Father's Death: 1 by Mephistopheles
Saloon: 10* (2 killings shown, about 8 displayed bodies*) by Blackheart
Train Station: 2 (1 by Blackheart, 1 by Ghost Rider)
Guilty Flashback: possibly 4*
Penance Stare: 1** by Ghost Rider
Jail: 9** by Ghost Rider
Roof: 1 by Ghost Rider
Mack: 1 by Blackheart
Swamp: 1 by Ghost Rider
Legion: 1 by Ghost Rider

*These scenes need to use a freeze frame to get an accurate count since it is impossible in a theater setting.

**There is debate as to whether or not Ghost Rider's Penance Stare actually kills. Perhaps a director's cut/comment might clarify this...

See finalized unrated cut below...

[slash]

I Think the penance stare does kill because ghost rider used it to kill Blackheart

[Amie]

Surprisingly, I got the unrated extended cut from Netflix. I'll do this count if no one else is doing it.

[Amie]

The Ghost Rider (Unrated Extended Cut)



Actors: Nicolas Cage, Peter Fonda, Sam Elliott, Donal Logue, Wes Bentley, Eva Mendes

Directed by: Mark Steven Johnson

Genre: Action / Fantasy / Thriller

MPAA: Rated PG-13 for horror violence and disturbing images

Released: 16 February 2007 (USA)


Total Movie Body Count: 52
Misc – roasted lizard, many cars and building fronts destroyed by Ghost Rider passing

Total Cage/Ghost Rider Body Count: 16
Total Bentley/Blackheart Body Count: 16
Total Fonda/Mephistopheles Body Count: 1



Movie breakdown:

Chapter 4: Changing Paths
Barton Blaze by Mephistopheles - 1
Chapter total:1

Chapter 6: Mr. Invincible
25:15 Biker by Blackheart - 1
Chapter total:1

Chapter 8: World Takeover
29:04 Bodies by Blackheart – 4
29:16 Woman by Blackheart - 1
29:24 Body on floor by Blackheart– 1
29:25 Bodies by Blackheart– 3
29:26 Body at rear bar Blackheart– 1
30:02 Body sitting at table, one on floor, one lying on bottom of broken window, by Blackheart - 3
Chapter total:13


Chapter 12: Burning Power
Station master by Blackheart - 1
Chapter total:1


Chapter 13: Rider’s Work
Gressil by Ghostrider/flaming chain – 1
53:58-54:00 Victim 1 from car, in Penance Stare – 1
54:03-54:07 Victim 2 knifed – 1
54:09 Victim 3 strangled – 1
54:15 Victim 4 shot – 1
54:17 Victim 5 – 1
(Since the Penance Stare was meant to make the receiver suffer the pain of his victims, and the guilty charge given by the Ghost Rider was “Your soul is stained by the blood of the innocent,” I’m assuming the people shown in the Penance Stare were victims of murder at the time of their death, hence the pain. Some of the shots were of the criminal himself, sometimes his face overlaid with a skeleton mask to show demonic influence.)
Chapter total:6


Chapter 19: Caged Fire
1:17:56, Criminals in jail cell by Ghost Rider/transformation – 9
1:17:59 Criminals in other jail cells by Ghost Rider/transformation- 3
Chapter total: 12

Chapter 21: Fighting Fire
Abigor by Ghost Rider/superheated air - 1
Chapter total:1

Chapter 25: Contract Battle
1:35:16 Mack by Blackheart - 1
Chapter total:1

Chapter 26: Last Ride
Roasted lizard – misc
1:43:32 Wallow by Ghost Rider - 1
Chapter total:1

Chapter 27: Ready for Battle
1:50:50, :52, :55, :57, :58, :59, 1:51:02, :04, :06 Victims of Legion shown in Penance Stare– 10
Skeletons in background – min 4 (the rest are uncountable)
Blackheart by Ghost Rider/Penance Stare a thousand-fold - 1
Chapter total:15


Character breakdown


Cage/Ghost Rider breakdown:
Gressil by Ghostrider/flaming chain – 1
1:17:56 Criminals in jail by Ghostrider/transformation – 9
1:17:59 Criminals in other jail cells by Ghost Rider/transformation- 3
Abigor by Ghost Rider/superheated air – 1
1:43:32 Wallow by Ghost Rider - 1
Blackheart by Ghost Rider/Penance Stare a thousand-fold - 1
Character total: 16

Bentley/Blackheart breakdown:
25:15 Biker by Blackheart – 1
29:04 Bodies by Blackheart – 4
29:16 Woman by Blackheart - 1
29:24 Body on floor by Blackheart– 1
29:25 Bodies by Blackheart– 3
29:26 Body at rear bar Blackheart– 1
30:02 Body sitting at table, one on floor, one lying on bottom of broken window, by Blackheart – 3
Station master by Blackheart – 1
1:35:16 Mack by Blackheart - 1
Character total: 16


Peter Fonda/Mephistopheles breakdown:
Barton Blaze by Mephistopheles – 1
Character total: 1




1. This is a snippet of the commentary by writer/director Mark Steven Johnson and visual effects supervisor Kevin Mack on the Penance Stare (Chapter 13, 54:40):

Johnson: “You can see his eye blink there, it’s a little CGI blink. I really wanted to make it clear that he wasn’t dead. The Ghost Rider doesn’t kill, at least not people. He never kills. That was important to me, and that was something that was in the comics as well. Instead, the Penance Stare is like a fate worse than death. It’s karma, that’s what it really is.”
Mack: “It’s judgment.”
Johnson: “Yeah.”



2. When Johnson said “The Ghost Rider doesn’t kill, at least not people. He never kills,” I assume he meant that Ghost Rider never kills humans deliberately through the Penance Stare. He did kill those prisoners in jail, but only by means of his transformation, which he had no control of. I count them dead as they were thrown several feet in the air by the tremendous force of his transformation and smashed into concrete walls and steel bars, and they looked dead in the scene. I don’t think anyone in the jail cell received the Penance Stare; the one criminal that survived was only relieved of his jacket. Blackheart’s Penance Stare, on the other hand, destroyed him (although I don’t think he can be killed like a human can) because 1. He was a demon, 2. His Penance Stare was a thousand times amplified, and 3. Mephistopheles’s deal involved the Ghost Rider destroying Blackheart to get his soul back, and in the end Mephistopheles believed the Ghost Rider fulfilled his end of the bargain.

[JenGe]

The pages are finished for Ghost Rider...

...and Amie thanks for the info on the Penance Stare. Information like this is always helpful to have and I'm glad you included it!!