Fictional Deaths within movie

[Wraith]

A couple movies led me to ask this question. If a movie shows a television show/movie that's not real in the context of the movie does that count? I don't mean archive footage from another movie, but the footage is particular to the movie.

EG:
ProtoCop's kills in Kiss Kiss Bang Bang, as well as the animated death in the credits, and the B-movie actress's "death" in the horror movie

The MagnaVolt Commercial in RoboCop 2

[JenGe]

I would say yes they count if it is shown on screen but I'm open to opposing opinions and debate on it.

[davethejew]

I always do it, even if its archive footage, its still an onscreen death

[Wraith]

Ok, sounds good. I changed a couple posts. I still don't agree about archive footage.

[ronnoc]

So even though the deaths are fake in the context of the film, they are counted?
In my first count, The Running Man, there is a part where a character is watching the news, and they show two dead guards that didn't aculy die, and latter, a simular thing happens where in two of the main characters deaths are faked on tv. Do these count?

[JenGe]

ronnoc said:

So even though the deaths are fake in the context of the film, they are counted?
In my first count, The Running Man, there is a part where a character is watching the news, and they show two dead guards that didn't aculy die, and latter, a simular thing happens where in two of the main characters deaths are faked on tv. Do these count?

Ok, this is a fine line here and open to interpertation. I'd love to start a debate and vote on this one because you raise a very, very good point.

I'll go start a vote/debate thread right now...

[JenGe]

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