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« Thread Started on Oct 1, 2006, 4:11pm »

hi folks,

i found this site by chance and appreciate all your work here.
since there are only two western done, here is one of the best:

THE WILD BUNCH

USA 1968 / restored director’s cut 1997

app. 144min (NTSC) / 138min (PAL)

by SAM PECKINPAH

starring William Holden (Pike Bishop), Ernest Borgnine (Dutch Engstrom), Warren Oates (Lyle Gorch), Ben Johnson (Tector Gorch), Robert Ryan (Deke Thornton), Edmund O’Brien (Freddie Sykes), Jaime Sanchez (Angel), Emilio Fernandez (Mapache), Strother Martin (Coffer), L.Q. Jones (T.C.), . . .

body count:

SAN RAFAEL 22
TRAIN ROBBERY 4
FIGHT AT BRIDGE 3
BATTLE OF AGUA VERDE 112
misc. 4

total 145


en detail:

SAN RAFAEL

0:10:08 bank clerk (shot by bounty hunters)
0:10:16 bounty hunter
0:10:20 bounty hunter (shot by Tector)
0:10:26 bounty hunter
0:10:50 civilian
0:10:57 civilian
0:11:06 civilian
0:11:15 bounty hunter
0:11:37 bunch member in trenchcoat (crashing into shop window)
0:11:40 bunch member in uniform (shot by Thornton)
0:11:53 civilian (shot by Mr. Harrigan)
0:12:19 tuba player (shot by Thornton)
0:12:22 bounty hunter (shot by Pike Bishop)
0:12:32 bunch member in trenchcoat (shot by Thornton)
0:12:42 woman trampled by horse
0:12:52 – 0:13:09 bunch member (first shot by Thornton and Coffer, final shot by T.C.)
0:13:28 man with gun (shot by Lyle)

0:16:45 three men (shot by Crazy Lee)
0:16:48 Crazy Lee (shot by Mr. Harrigan)

0:18:10 wounded bunch member (shot by Pike)

AGUA VERDE

0:54:39 Angel kills Teresa

FLASHBACK

1:08:30 Pikes girlfriend killed by her husband

TRAIN ROBBERY

1:15:47 two machinists kicked/thrown from engine by Pike (not counted)
1:15:48 2 soldiers (shot by Lyle)
1:15:58 2 solders (shot by Angel)

BRIDGE

1:22:21 1 bounty hunter (killed by Pike)
1:23:20 1 soldier (shot by T.C.)
1:23:40 1 bounty hunter (shot by Tector)

NOTE: there are 9 bounty hunters (incl. Thornton) on the train and then in pursuit of the bunch. 2 of them are clearly seen killed by the bunch. then on the bridge there are only five left. so 2 are – well – missing in action. ;)

PANCHO VILLA ATTACKS GENERAL MAPACHE

1:29:25 1 soldier

HERRERA TRIES TO GET THE GUNS

1:40:48 1 soldier shot by his own men

AGUA VERDE – THE BATTLE OF BLOODY PORCH

2:06:30 Angel killed by Mapache
2:06:35 Mapache killed by Pike & Dutch
2:07:12 Kommandant Mohr shot by Pike
2:07:15 Herrera shot by Pike

2:07:15 – 2:11:00

33 killed by Pike
23 killed by Dutch
20 killed by Tector
24 killed by Lyle
4 killed accidentally by german officer
Pike, Dutch, Tector & Lyle killed by Mapaches
soldiers


character breakdown:

Pike Bishop 38
Lyle Gorch 27
Dutch Engstrom 23
Tector Gorch 22

added :
Deke Thornton 3
Angel 3


NOTE: it is VERY difficult to count the shot people in this final battle. the scenes are set up very well. there is a lot of movement in the background, people running, stumbling, seeking cover etc.
there are a lot of „cut aways“ only indicating that the people are severely wounded or killed.

i think the total number of 145 is quite reliable.


i will recount the movie sometime next week to make it sure.
if someone else wants to do it - go ahead :)






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« Reply #1 on Oct 1, 2006, 4:39pm »

you gotta do character counts, breakdown for each character
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« Reply #2 on Oct 1, 2006, 4:50pm »

Looks good to me. I'm a tad confused by the differences in these counts though. Am I missing something?? Are they suppose to be the same numbers for the characters??

33 killed by Pike
23 killed by Dutch
20 killed by Tector
24 killed by Lyle
4 killed accidentally by german officer
Pike, Dutch, Tector & Lyle killed by Mapaches
soldiers


Total bodycounts by character:

Pike Bishop 38
Lyle Gorch 27
Dutch Engstrom 23
Tector Gorch 22


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Looks good to me. I'm a tad confused by the differences in these counts though. Am I missing something?? Are they suppose to be the same numbers for the characters??

33 killed by Pike
23 killed by Dutch
20 killed by Tector
24 killed by Lyle
4 killed accidentally by german officer
Pike, Dutch, Tector & Lyle killed by Mapaches
soldiers


Total bodycounts by character:

Pike Bishop 38
Lyle Gorch 27
Dutch Engstrom 23
Tector Gorch 22



the first numbers are for the final battle.
the latter ones for the whole movie.

ps. i added the breakdown for Thornton & Angel. missed that somehow.
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the first numbers are for the final battle.
the latter ones for the whole movie.

ps. i added the breakdown for Thornton & Angel. missed that somehow.


Ok, I was missing something.

BTW, welcome to the site!! It'll take me a bit to get this one on the site since I go by the order that they were posted. Films that change the top 5 get bumped as do new releases. Sorry about that but it should give you plenty of time to count other films in the mean time. ;) I can only work so fast. You don't do HTML do you?? :D
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« Reply #5 on Jul 31, 2007, 10:52am »

The pages are finished for The Wild Bunch...
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