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Movie Body Counts Boards :: Boards :: Finished Counts :: The Return of the King (extended edition) Author Topic: The Return of the King (extended edition) (Read 12,445 times) JenGe Administrator member is offline Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,443 Location: Surfing the internet... The Return of the King (extended edition) « Thread Started on Aug 2, 2006, 7:26pm » I received the following by email. Looks like we have a new #1... Quote: The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King Body Count Directed by Peter Jackson Humans and Orcs killed in entire film: 836 Animals killed in entire film: 166 Actors: Elijah Wood, Viggo Mortensen, Orlando Bloom, Sean Bean, Ian McKellen, Billy Boyd, Dominic Monaghan, Hugo Weaving, John Rhys-Davies MPAA: Rated PG-13 for epic battle sequences and some scary images. Genre: Action / Adventure / Fantasy 2003 (Special Extended Version DVD) Total Movie Breakdown: Disc 1: 1. The Finding of the Ring Smeagol strangles Deagol – 1 Fish killed by Gollum – 1 (not counted in the final Body count) 4. The Voice of Saruman Saruman killed by Grima Wormtongue -1 Grima Wormtongue shot by Legolas - 1 12. The Decline of Gondor Flashback of Boromirs Death – 1 18. Osgiliath Invaded 21. The Fall of Osgiliath 22. The Wizard's Pupil Men killed by Orcs – 39 Orcs killed by Men – 31 Orcs killed by Faramir - 4 Men thrown to their death by Nazguls – 7 Horses killed by Nazguls – 8 (not counted in the final Body count) 28. The Sacrifice of Faramir Men riding with Faramir in the aerial shot to their doom – 72 (not counted in the final Body count, as we do not see their death) 36. The Siege of Gondor Civilians killed – 8 ( including two infants) Soldiers of Gondor killed – 17 Soldiers of gondor smahed by falling debris – 2 Soldiers of Gondor killed by Nazguls – 17 Orcs killed by Pipin – 1 Orcs killed by Gandalf – 9 Orcs killed by Men – 64 Orcs smashed to death by stones: 1 Stone: between 63 to 84 (not counted in the final Body count) 2. Stone (the rolling one): 60 to 90 (not counted in the final Body count) 3. stone (hitting the siege tower): 20 to 30 and 1 Troll (not counted in the final Body count) Orcs lying in front of the Minas Tirith Gate: 21 can be counted, but must be many more (21counted in the final Body count) Disc 2: 37. The Corsairs of Umbar Corsairs killed by Legolas – 1 38. Shelob's Lair Orc skeletons – 2 (not counted in the final Body count) Mummified corpses – 3 (not counted in the final Body count) 42. Breaking the Gate of Gondor Men killed – 21 Orcs killed – 6 Trolls killed by arrows – 1 Trolls killed by Gandalf – 1 44. Denethor's Madness 45. The Witch King's Hour Soldiers killed by Orcs – 26 Orcs killed by Soldiers – 10 Civilian corpses – 1 46. The Ride of the Rohirim [4:14] 48. The Battle of the Pelennor Fields [4:55] 50. The Nazgϋl and His Prey [1:45] 51. The Black Ships [:52] 52. Shield maiden of Rohan [:44] 53. Victory at Minas Tirith [2:35] 54. The Passing of Thιoden [2:02] 55. Oaths Fulfilled Rohirim killed – 123 Horses – 134 (not counted in the final Body count) Olifants killed – 8 (not counted in the final Body count) Sauthrons killed – 32 Denethor - 1 Nazgul killed – 1 Nazgul steed killed – 1 (not counted in the final Body count) Orcs killed: 239 Orcs ridden down by Rohirim – 83 58. The Tower of Cirith Ungol Orcs killed – 9 Orc corpses littering the tower – 24 Orcs killed by Sam – 4 64. The Mouth of Sauron Mouth of sauron killed by Aragorn – 1 65. The Black Gate Opens to 69. "The Eagles Are Coming!" Men killed – 1 Orcs killed – 19 Nazguls killed – 3 Nazgul steed killed – 3 (not counted in the final Body count) 35. Sauron Defeated Gollum killed – 1 Sauron killed – 1 Nazguls killed – 3 Nazgul steed killed – 3 (not counted in the final Body count) I was conservative in counting this- especially in the scenes on the Pelennor Fields, as it is almost impossible to count accurately since so many people are ridden down, shot, stabbed, thrown trough the air and killed in other ways- at the same time. I counted very conservatively- i.e. I did only assume the minimum number of Orcs killed by the stones thrown from the walls and did not include them in the final Body count. I decided to count the CGI Orcs ridden down by the charging Rohirim. I counted all the Orcs that were visibly ridden down or disappeared, when a Rohirim horse moved over them. Also I counted the charging Rohirim that were hit by arrows in the charge. Regarding bodies on the field: I did not count them when they were not clearly distinguishable and in the scenes of Eowyn with the Nazgul and Theoden I only counted the dead horses and Rohirim around her once, but did not include the Orc corpses, since I had them already counted in the scenes before, where she killed them. In the battles I counted every body that was hit by weapon and then fell over- regardless of the severity of the wound. I stopped counting who killed whom how, as soon as the charge of the Rohirim got underway- there was enough other things to count. I hope to do that count in the future- or if someone else wants to do it « Last Edit: Aug 5, 2006, 12:09pm by JenGe » Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Webmaster: MovieBodyCounts.com | Equilibrium Fansite | JD Foust Designs JenGe Administrator member is offline Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,443 Location: Surfing the internet... Re: The Return of the King « Reply #1 on Aug 5, 2006, 12:55am » This film has been bumped since it's a new #1... Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Webmaster: MovieBodyCounts.com | Equilibrium Fansite | JD Foust Designs JenGe Administrator member is offline Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,443 Location: Surfing the internet... Re: The Return of the King « Reply #2 on Aug 5, 2006, 11:31am » The pages are done for The Return of the King... I still need the character kills finished though. « Last Edit: Aug 5, 2006, 12:18pm by JenGe » Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Webmaster: MovieBodyCounts.com | Equilibrium Fansite | JD Foust Designs wheels128 Full Member member is offline Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 244 Re: The Return of the King « Reply #3 on Aug 5, 2006, 12:03pm » What the hell... 836? Is that even possible? I want a double-checking of that... Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged JenGe Administrator member is offline Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,443 Location: Surfing the internet... Re: The Return of the King « Reply #4 on Aug 5, 2006, 12:04pm » Quote: What the hell... 836? Is that even possible? I want a double-checking of that... Yes, please do!!! The entire breakdown is there. Also note that it is the "extended edition" so it has a large advantage over other films. The slaughter can go on for hours... « Last Edit: Aug 5, 2006, 12:07pm by JenGe » Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Webmaster: MovieBodyCounts.com | Equilibrium Fansite | JD Foust Designs JenGe Administrator member is offline Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,443 Location: Surfing the internet... Re: The Return of the King (extended edition) « Reply #5 on Aug 5, 2006, 12:14pm » Another thing to remember is that most of the kills are cgi orcs... Hobbits: 2 Humans: 147 Uruk-hai and Orcs: 524 Trolls: 2 Rohirim: 123 Sauthrons: 32 Nazguls: 6 Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Webmaster: MovieBodyCounts.com | Equilibrium Fansite | JD Foust Designs davethejew God member is offline Joined: Feb 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 673 Location: NJ Re: The Return of the King (extended edition) « Reply #6 on Aug 5, 2006, 8:00pm » Should CGI kills even count? Shouldn't we just be counting balls to the walls kills, mostly by humans... Because action nuts like myself and wheels are dying over here Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged wheels128 Full Member member is offline Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 244 Re: The Return of the King (extended edition) « Reply #7 on Aug 5, 2006, 8:55pm » We need to count CGI kills (for example, the majority of deaths in a lot of modern horror films are CGI), unless the type of character/being that gets killed never appears in anything other than CGI, but I'm skeptical about animal deaths. My LOTR knowledge is a little rusty, so I'm not sure which ones we'd classify as human/non-human if we relax the definition of human a little. Therefore, we need take out the deaths of Nazguls, if they're the flying-winged things that I think they are... Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged JenGe Administrator member is offline Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,443 Location: Surfing the internet... Re: The Return of the King (extended edition) « Reply #8 on Aug 6, 2006, 11:35am » Well, I've thought about this and I think I'll need to make up several different "Top" charts...CGI free...non extended editions... I feel like I'm hanycapping a racehorse. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Webmaster: MovieBodyCounts.com | Equilibrium Fansite | JD Foust Designs JenGe Administrator member is offline Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,443 Location: Surfing the internet... Re: The Return of the King (extended edition) « Reply #9 on Aug 6, 2006, 11:36am » Quote: Therefore, we need take out the deaths of Nazguls, if they're the flying-winged things that I think they are... Even if we did it still would be #1 by a long shot just by the orcs alone. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Webmaster: MovieBodyCounts.com | Equilibrium Fansite | JD Foust Designs JenGe Administrator member is offline Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,443 Location: Surfing the internet... Re: The Return of the King (extended edition) « Reply #10 on Aug 6, 2006, 11:37am » Quote: Therefore, we need take out the deaths of Nazguls, if they're the flying-winged things that I think they are... Even if we did it still would be #1 by a long shot just by the orcs alone. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Webmaster: MovieBodyCounts.com | Equilibrium Fansite | JD Foust Designs wheels128 Full Member member is offline Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 244 Re: The Return of the King (extended edition) « Reply #11 on Aug 7, 2006, 12:09am » Sure it's still more than three times the count of the next nearest film that isn't 3½ hours long, and based on a world with creatures that don't exactly exist, but if you're going to count Nazguls, you've gotta count all the dragon thingies in Reign Of Fire, the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park etc... Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged binu New Member member is offline Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1 Re: The Return of the King (extended edition) « Reply #12 on Aug 7, 2006, 8:10pm » I don't think anyone needs to worry about the whole "Nazgul" thing, because -- contrary to popular belief -- the Nazguls are not the flying dragon-type things, they are the weird "kings-of-old" things... You know, in the FotR, one of them stabbed Frodo and demanded Arwen to "Give us the halfling, she-elf!" and in this movie, the Nazgul leader (the Witch-king) said to Eowyn, "You fool! No man can kill me. Die now!" So technically, the Nazgul are humanoid... Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged JenGe Administrator member is offline Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,443 Location: Surfing the internet... Re: The Return of the King (extended edition) « Reply #13 on Aug 8, 2006, 11:17am » Quote: You know, in the FotR, one of them stabbed Frodo and demanded Arwen to "Give us the halfling, she-elf!" and in this movie, the Nazgul leader (the Witch-king) said to Eowyn, "You fool! No man can kill me. Die now!" So technically, the Nazgul are humanoid... Thanks for clearing that up and welcome to the site!!! I would say the "speaking" would certainly be a major point. Drake would have to count in Dragonheart (I can't remember now if he died or not though ) . Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Webmaster: MovieBodyCounts.com | Equilibrium Fansite | JD Foust Designs Amie Full Member member is offline Joined: Nov 2005 Gender: Female Posts: 229 Re: The Return of the King (extended edition) « Reply #14 on Aug 8, 2006, 11:38am » WHOA!! That is astounding! Thanks for doing the count! I've been meaning to do it but I knew it was going to be an enormous job! Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged wheels128 Full Member member is offline Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 244 Re: The Return of the King (extended edition) « Reply #15 on Aug 9, 2006, 7:20am » You can still do it, Amie, for your own fun and enjoyment, hehe. Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged bloodfeast New Member member is offline Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 3 Re: The Return of the King (extended edition) « Reply #16 on Jan 9, 2007, 6:56pm » i did a body count (including cgi, of screen deaths, animals, NAZGUL, ect. extended version) and got over 100,000 b/c there were about 300,000 orcs at the seige of gondor and AT LEAST a 1/3 or more were killed also include the 15,000+ orcs killed at the black gate when the ground broke open so mabye more like 150,000+ not 800+ Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Ankhareon New Member member is offline Joined: Nov 2006 Gender: Male Posts: 39 Location: New Zealand Re: The Return of the King (extended edition) « Reply #17 on Jan 9, 2007, 7:14pm » No, this is on-screen kills, not statistical kills, so while there may have been 100000 deaths in a given battle, they don't count if you didn't see them Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged bloodfeast New Member member is offline Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 3 Re: The Return of the King (extended edition) « Reply #18 on Jan 9, 2007, 7:32pm » ok thx also when did 2 hobbits die???? Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged JenGe Administrator member is offline Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,443 Location: Surfing the internet... Re: The Return of the King (extended edition) « Reply #19 on Jan 9, 2007, 8:33pm » Quote: ok thx... Please read the site's Guidelines for Counts before you go post at the hip. Also disputes belong on the disputes board and not in these threads. Thanks, Management « Last Edit: Jan 9, 2007, 8:36pm by JenGe » Link to Post - Back to Top   Logged Webmaster: MovieBodyCounts.com | Equilibrium Fansite | JD Foust Designs Forum Jump--------------------» Home--------------------» Boards--------------------- Movie Body Counts: Queue- Finished Counts- Low Count Films- Counts Pending- Corrections & Disputes- General Discussions--------------------» Counts Not on Site--------------------- DVD/Video- TV Movies & Shows Counts